Will not work on macOSX Sierra

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hexiaochuan1

15 Jun, 2016 01:35 AM

Note from GPGTools, December 30



Hi all,

yesterday, December 29th, we have sent an email to all of the watchers in this discussion.
Unfortunately we couldn't simply use our support platform to notify all watchers, since we were told that if the number of watchers exceeds a certain amount, no more email notifications will be sent.
Once we have received some feedback from our users, we will release the beta on our website and also through our beta update channel.

To clarify some things mentioned in this discussion:

  • Crash reporting is optional. You will be asked if you want to opt-in the first time GPGMail discovers a crash.

  • The reports certainly do not include any keys (neither secret nor public). They are standard macOS crash reports and you can find them under ~/Library/Logs/DiagnosticReports/ to see what they look like

For those who just recently subscribed to the discussion, the email from yesterday is reproduced in full below.

Hope you all have a good start into the new year. Enjoy your celebrations!

<3 and ☀
GPGTools


-----BEGIN PGP SIGNED MESSAGE-----
Hash: SHA1

GPGMail for macOS 10.12 Sierra (Beta 1)
=======================================

A long year is coming to an end and we are all looking forward to some cosy and fun festivities to welcome the new year.
But before, we wanted to finally reward your patience. So after a painful and long waiting time, extensive reverse engineering and re-writing of major parts of our codebase, we are very happy to share the first beta of GPGMail for macOS Sierra with you.

Download:
https://releases.gpgtools.org/GPG_Suite-2016.12b1.dmg

SHA256: 2bb29067e7f2705a51b22f23080ca767bba4735ce16711a7d950e582737e8aaf
GPG Signature: https://releases.gpgtools.org/GPG_Suite-2016.12b1.dmg.sig

As with every beta we don't recommend using it in a production environment just yet, since bugs and crashes may occur.
Please report any bugs you find via System Preferences > GPGPreferences > Send Report.

We have added optional crash reporting to GPGMail in order for us to better understand when and where crashes are occuring.

We wish you the very best and happy festivities,

your GPGTools Team

=====

KNOWN ISSUES

* If multiple private keys are available for the same email address, GPGMail currently picks one at random to sign the message
* Some messages might not load correctly. If you can provide us with an example .eml file we'd love to debug the issue.
* If you cancel the pinentry request for signing upon sending a message it might lead to unexpected behavior
* Inline PGP is currently not supported at all, PGP/MIME will be used instead
* "BCC" recpients are currently not treated differently from "TO" or "CC" recipients (gnupg --hidden-recipients option not currently in use)
* The GPGMail Preferences layout is a bit wonky (Mail -> Preferences -> GPGMail)
* Keys that are imported using gnupg cli or GPG Keychain might require a restart of Mail in order to be picked up by GPGMail
* Mail rules for signed or encrypted messages will not work for PGP/MIME signed/encryted messages.

To receive further betas, make sure you are on the beta update channel. Open System Preferenes > GPGPreferences and in the Updates section check the option to 'Include beta builds'. Consider enabling auto-updates to ensure you receive notifications about further beta updates.
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Original first post was:
The entire suit will not work on macOSX Sierra. Hope you have went throught your way from Yosemite to El Capitain to Sierra.
Good Luck

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  1. 31 Posted by dtich on 13 Sep, 2016 04:40 PM

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    i'm a donor/supporter for a long time, and i think it would be professional, and reasonable to expect that posts in the support forum are responded to in a timely manner, whether this is 'donor-ware' or not -- if you want your work taken seriously, communication is essential. i understand the devs have day jobs and can't spend all sorts of time responding to each repetitive support forum post, but the way to alleviate that is to post definitive responses and realistic timelines, so that users, and donors, can manage expectations -- but not in an open-ended, 'maybe it'll happen maybe it won't' kind of way. which is what we have now. so, devs, please, we need more comm with realistic timelines and dates and promises about what you are and are not planning to do. because, if you are not planning to keep this product current, and those of us who use it daily can not count on it from here on out, well, we should wisely go do something else. but to make it into a push-pull, perhaps it's coming, perhaps it's not situation, is disrespectful to all of us who respond with considered bug reports and send you money and thank you genuinely for the good work and useful apps you maintain time and again. so, consider that please. and respond. thanks!

  2. 32 Posted by prich on 13 Sep, 2016 06:51 PM

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    Outside of the missed release which by viewing via my apple dev account and an attempt to compile the source. What
    data do you have indicating they are un-motivated.

  3. 33 Posted by tthoma24 on 14 Sep, 2016 04:35 AM

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    prich, how about the fact that the developers have not interacted on this thread since back in June?! We're now about a week away from release of Sierra, and nothing; complete radio silence. Not to mention people asking in this thread "How can I help with this?" being met with nothing. Further, it's great that the team has open-sourced their code, but they make no visible effort to either get others involved in the project and throw peoplepower at it, or to show where they are with their progress. Maybe that doesn't mean the development team is not motivated, but that sure is the way it comes off to me.

  4. Support Staff 34 Posted by Steve on 14 Sep, 2016 10:13 AM

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    Dear all,

    we understand you all are eagerly waiting for a version of GPGMail that is compatible with macOS Sierra (10.12).

    We are still working on 10.12 compatibility and hope to have a first beta ready, close to the macOS 10.12 Sierra launch day.

    Kind regards,
    steve

  5. 35 Posted by info on 14 Sep, 2016 09:53 PM

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    @steve Thank you for your team's hard work. I know it. Please take your time.

  6. 36 Posted by prich on 15 Sep, 2016 04:25 AM

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    Just curious how you have concluded the team is un-motivated. Could it at all be possible they may be waiting out ALL of the OS changes which have occurred getting to the GM of Sierra ?

    Do you actually do any dev work whether it be hw or sw on the side in addition to you day job ?

    Since you haven't paid, and it is FREE as far as you are concerned so why are you complaining about arrival dates for what is FREE software for you.

    Sent from my iPad

  7. 37 Posted by dtich on 16 Sep, 2016 10:28 PM

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    thanks for the response steve. we do appreciate the work and the product. obviously.

  8. 38 Posted by Lang on 16 Sep, 2016 10:37 PM

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    @Steve - since this is open sourced, with the code available on GitHub, have you considered soliciting help from the community-at-large?

  9. 39 Posted by Karan Lyons on 20 Sep, 2016 07:47 PM

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    I can’t seem to find this ticket in lighthouse nor any branch or commits related to fixing the plugin. Could you give us those pertinent links so that other developers can try their hand at pitching in?

  10. 40 Posted by Dan on 22 Sep, 2016 07:06 AM

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    Looking forward to the fix. +1

  11. 41 Posted by G on 22 Sep, 2016 09:50 AM

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    Literally the only software I have that doesn't run on sierra, and I have many since I am a professional programmer. meh.

  12. 42 Posted by Bruce on 22 Sep, 2016 11:48 AM

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    Can I suggest that anyone who may be able to contribute to this excellent & free project go here and offer their services.

    There appears to have been for activity for nearly 2 weeks now, so the maintainers clearly need some help.

  13. 43 Posted by B on 22 Sep, 2016 01:02 PM

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    Hey G!

    Since you are a professional programmer and this is open source you might be able to help ;)

  14. 44 Posted by kolargol on 22 Sep, 2016 01:04 PM

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    @B problem is that many want to help but gpg team do not want help nor do anything to improve situation...

  15. 45 Posted by Bruce on 22 Sep, 2016 01:07 PM

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    2 weeks inactivity looks worrying too

  16. 46 Posted by Lang on 22 Sep, 2016 01:15 PM

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    @kolargol the code is open source on GitHub so anyone can contribute

  17. 47 Posted by Cal on 22 Sep, 2016 03:48 PM

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    Work around anyone?

  18. 48 Posted by sandoval on 22 Sep, 2016 06:29 PM

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    @steve, thank you for your team's hard work. Keep it up!

    I don't have any experience with Mail plugins but I can program Objective-C and Swift for iOS. If there's anything I can do to help, please let me know.

  19. 49 Posted by Jay Vaughan on 24 Sep, 2016 09:21 AM

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    Any news on this?

  20. 50 Posted by G on 24 Sep, 2016 10:45 PM

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    Hey B, unfortunately I'm not fluent with obj.c/swift but only java/scala/python and a bunch of other stuff I do for 10+hours/day 6 days/w (startupper...). If I could contribute i would, if I could pay to have it sooner I would as well, but there's nothing I can do with the time/knowledge I have... Anyway, sierra doesn't really add anything to my workflow so I'll just wait for the sierra version to be released.

    I'm pretty sure it's apple that changed the underlying software so badly it takes months to rewrite the software and it's not the gpg tools team's fault :P. It's always damn apple :P

  21. 51 Posted by Lawrence pires on 26 Sep, 2016 07:42 AM

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    Is the beta and and ready for testing yet?

  22. 52 Posted by dmz on 27 Sep, 2016 06:25 PM

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    So, Sierra has now been out for a week, and not only no beta, but also no commits of any kind to any branch of the GitHub repo since August 12, and nothing public to indicate anything being done toward Sierra compatibility.

    There are lots of people out there who'd probably be willing to help, but an open source project that doesn't actually do their work in the open isn't likely to get much help from those people.

  23. 53 Posted by james on 27 Sep, 2016 09:01 PM

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    I assume the NSA is trying to get rid of GPG for Mail.app.

  24. 54 Posted by Sascha on 28 Sep, 2016 12:09 PM

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    Okay, since there is basically no noticeable progress on the gpgmail/sierra problem... Are there any alternative (paid) mailclients for osx which support gpg?

  25. 55 Posted by Modest on 28 Sep, 2016 01:34 PM

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    Actually Enigmail Plugin works fine, available for:
    - Thunderbird - Postbox

    In the meanwhile you can decrypt/engrypt your mails in Apple Mail with context menu -> services -> OpenPGP: Sign/Encrypt/Decrypt Selection to New Window and copy/paste.

  26. 56 Posted by Fixnot on 28 Sep, 2016 06:33 PM

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    Modest,

    Can you expand on context menu work around?

  27. 57 Posted by Fixnot on 28 Sep, 2016 06:43 PM

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    NVM, i see the new link at the top of the page

  28. 58 Posted by Open on 03 Oct, 2016 10:01 AM

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    Actually, if you run your own server, you can use the Roundcube webmail client. Since version 1.2.0 it supports PGP/GPG out of the box and works very nice. It has replaces my Apple mail app and fixed the missing gpgtools.org stuff. Thus I'm actually rather going to donate my money to support Roundcube in the future than I did gpgtools.org in the past.

    I understand the policy that impatience is not nice in open source projects, but still those projects should be open in communicating what's going on and keep people involved (especially if they want donations). Open source software shall be transparently developed.

  29. 59 Posted by Michael Gregoro... on 04 Oct, 2016 01:44 PM

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    All, I'm disappointed too. One of my macs is on Sierra and my other one I'm holding back on El Capitan. I understand we all like new and shiny things, and we want them now. GPGMail's main purpose isn't being a nice shiny tool... it's a utility we actually depend on a great deal. Personally, I'd rather have something that's had sufficient time in the oven over a false sense of security. Especially given the nature of this software.

  30. 60 Posted by nr2ur329 on 04 Oct, 2016 04:54 PM

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    +1 to #59; would be nice to have it ready NOW, but more import to be SECURE. Also, having installed Sierra on a dev box, there's nothing to gain from the 'upgrade' - after using for several hours and going back to El Cap there is no significant difference beyond larger emoji in iMessage. If Apple hadn't forsaken the Mac it may matter more to have to wait on an OS update, but those days are long gone.

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