Is the Sonoma incompatability just GPG Mail?

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01 Nov, 2023 02:16 PM

I understand that the plugin doesn't work, but do the rest of the GPGTools work correctly in Sonoma?

  1. Support Staff 1 Posted by Steve on 02 Nov, 2023 12:09 AM

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    Hi SMB,

    GPG Mail is the only component that currently is not compatible with macOS 14.

    Hope this helps,

  2. 2 Posted by karel.guzman on 02 Nov, 2023 09:41 AM

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    Hello Steve, thank you for this confirmation! do you know when a beta will be available for Apple ? thank you

  3. Support Staff 3 Posted by Steve on 02 Nov, 2023 01:14 PM

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    Hi Karel,

    with 14.1 out, here's a quick update:

    While we are still not very happy about the current state of the Mail Extensions API (MailKit), due to mounting pressure and request from our user base, we are preparing a beta version for next week.

    Please expect decryption inconsistencies and in the worst case losing drafts during the composing stage.

    Based on a first analysis of the latest 14.2 beta, Apple is still working on the issues we have brought to their attention and are making progress. Due to a bug in the first 14.2 beta expect Mail to crash with GPG Mail enabled when composing messages and signing or encryption button are not enabled.

    Drafts that were previously encrypted will be decrypted when they are edited and stored in plain on the server. Mail currently doesn't always invoke the extension when saving drafts, so drafts currently can't be reliably stored encrypted.

    We do understand this is frustrating and as you can imagine it's terribly frustrating for us as well.

  4. 4 Posted by SMB on 02 Nov, 2023 02:34 PM

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    Thank you for the update and the clarification Steve. Please keep the updates coming as macOS point releases are released because it helps with planning upgrades.

  5. 5 Posted by KMP on 06 Nov, 2023 06:01 PM

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    Thank you for the update! We're hoping for the best here. I've send feedback to Apple, and also written to [email blocked] which is apparently another method of ... making one's voice known.

  6. 6 Posted by karel.guzman on 12 Nov, 2023 05:35 PM

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    Hello Steve, do we have any news on the development status, any beta dropping soon?

  7. 7 Posted by MacOS on 13 Nov, 2023 12:46 AM

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    Hi Steve - I purchased GPG Tools for Apple Mail integration but realized after I have Sonoma for MacOS. Any update on the Apple Mail extension for GPG Tools? Thank you.

  8. 8 Posted by Bjorn De Sutter on 13 Nov, 2023 09:19 AM

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    Hi Steve,
    Any update? For security reasons, sticking to Ventura much longer is obviously not a sustainable solution.

  9. 9 Posted by Alessio on 16 Nov, 2023 01:04 AM

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    I'm also intersted. I'm waiting new gpg suite version before upgrade to Sonoma. It's any news for us please?

  10. 10 Posted by pgs on 19 Nov, 2023 11:08 PM

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    Any news about Sonoma API ?

  11. 11 Posted by Ciarán Wasson on 21 Nov, 2023 05:02 PM

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    Any news on GPG tools and Sonoma?

  12. 12 Posted by Andreas on 22 Nov, 2023 12:19 AM

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    Any news about the progress would help me keeping calm :)
    Thank you guys for your hard work, I know you all are working on the MailKit Extension a lot. Keep calm and drink a coffee :) Good luck

  13. Support Staff 13 Posted by Steve on 23 Nov, 2023 01:33 AM

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    Hi all,

    today we finally want to share exciting news in regards to macOS 14 Sonoma with you.

    We are publishing a first beta version of GPG Mail. This is a complete rewrite and the first time ever GPG Mail is available in the form of a Mail Extension.

    As you can see in the list below there are still many remaining issues Apple has not yet fixed. All of these bugs are filed with Apple but at this time, we don't know when and if they will be addressed.
    Expect bugs - e.g. after opening Mail app the first selected email is not decrypted - and even crashes (see Known Issue for saving drafts on macOS 14.2)
    In some cases the extension stops working but still shows as enabled in Mail › Settings › Extensions. In that case it’s necessary to logout / login or reboot your mac. If a composing window is left open when closing Mail, the next time Mail is started it won’t use the extension until the extension is re-enabled via Mail › Settings › Extensions (see Known Issues).

    Please report any findings or other feedback via System Settings > GPG Suite > Contact Support. We do recommend sending in screenshots or videos, since they often help us to better understand problems you might be seeing. You can add screenshots after you have reported a problem. So first file the report, click send, then add screenshots or screencasts.

    Please download GPG Suite 3485n containing GPG Mail as Mail Extension from:

    After installation, open Mail and go to Settings › Extensions. Activate GPG Mail and you should be ready for testing.
    During the beta period your current GPG Mail Support Plans will continue working.

    Known issues

    • FB13380621 If a compose window was open when Mail was last closed, which is restored on launch, no message will be processed by the extension until the GPG Mail Extension is disabled and re-enabled manually via Mail › Settings › Extensions
    • FB12848141 Drafts are not encrypted. Already encrypted drafts will be stored in plain(!) on the mail server if the user continues to edit them
    • FB9216546 After launch, if a message is pre-selected it will not be processed by GPG Mail Workaround: de-select and re-select the message
    • FB13303274On macOS 14.2 betas Mail will crash if a draft is saved if any extension is enabled and neither the sign button nor the encrypt button are active
    • FB13394225 If the extension becomes unresponsive or Mail can't connect to it it will still show as enabled in Mail › Settings › Extensions but the user won't be alerted Workaround: Logout/Login or Restart of the computer solves this in most cases
    • FB13381340 In offline mode, the extension will not be called to decrypt / verify messages
    • FB9222544 The sign and encrypt button will be toggled on or off based on the state of the last composed message instead of based on the defaults set in GPG Keychain › Settings › GPG Mail or the security status of the original message in case of a reply
    • FB12193522, FB13383153 There is currently no warning in case a user attempts to reply to an encrypted message in plain
    • FB12193526 If the GPG Keyring is edited (new keys, updated keys) Mail has to be restarted for the changes to be reflected
    • FB12191237 A "For security reasons remote content is not loaded." banner might be shown even though no remote content is included in the message
    • FB12193519 There's no special hint / message in the compose window if no secret key is for the sender is available or an available secret key can't be used (e.g. expired)
    • FB13381340 It's not possible to switch between S/MIME and OpenPGP when composing a message
    • FB12193528 Compose window might not be animated out immediately when pressing send. Don't press send repeatedly
    • FB12193520 Partial Inline PGP encrypted / signed message are currently not supported
    • FB12056175 The signature detail view might be display at "unusal" positions

    Best regards,

  14. 14 Posted by karel.guzman on 23 Nov, 2023 05:12 AM

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    Great news, thank you! I have already install it, and is working!

  15. 15 Posted by GrandmasterD on 24 Nov, 2023 01:25 PM

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    Beta loaded, test email sent and now AppleMail crashes immediately after opening :-(

  16. 16 Posted by a.massad on 24 Nov, 2023 02:04 PM

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    This comment was split into a new private discussion: GPG Mail: Is the Sonoma incompatability just GPG Mail?

    @GrandmasterD: Same here, crash seems to be triggered by incoming mails (encrypted or not encrypted). Found a work-around:

    • (1) Disconnect computer from the internet (e.g. turn off WLAN in the system menu bar)

    • (2) Start => all accounts are displayed as disconnected

    • (3) Go to Settings > Plugins and turn off GPG Mail plugin

    • (4) Reconnect computer to the internet => all accounts are automatically turned online

    • (5) To read encrypted mails, turn on GPG Mail plugin temporarily (Mail will crash again on each incoming mail)

  17. Support Staff 17 Posted by Steve on 24 Nov, 2023 04:42 PM

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    If you encounter please do file new discussions. It makes the conversation easier for everybody as we can respond on a per case basis and focus on the problem at hand.

    Thank you.

  18. Steve closed this discussion on 24 Nov, 2023 04:42 PM.

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