GPG for Yosemite
Hi there,
is there a plan to bring out the GPG also for Yosemite and if when will that be?
Best wishes
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Support Staff 1 Posted by Steve on 10 Oct, 2014 05:13 PM
Hi Chapeau,
this plan exists. But we do generally not give out any ETAs. So if you rely on GPGMail, please wait, until we announce a working version for the upcoming OS X 10.10.
All the best, steve
2 Posted by trebian on 19 Oct, 2014 01:24 PM
Hi GPGTools-Team,
Yosemite is out and installed.
When will we get the new GPGMail Software that we can encryp our mails again?
All the best
Dan
Support Staff 3 Posted by Luke Le on 19 Oct, 2014 01:25 PM
We'll release a beta version as soon as possible.
More info here: https://gpgtools.org/news
Best,
Lukas
4 Posted by Wayne on 20 Oct, 2014 11:03 AM
Hi. Thank you for your excellent efforts. I'll be happy to pay for the upgraded product. The security as well as its ease to install & use are well worth it.
I just wanted to receive a notice for the Yosemite release of PGPTools (couldn't find such a feature elsewhere)... hoping this discussion entry will do the trick.
If there is a better/preferred way, please let me know.
Cheers!
5 Posted by ryder.dain on 20 Oct, 2014 01:10 PM
Hi Steve,
I'm a long-time user and former donor to the GPGMail project. When Mavericks came out, I had a good deal of success with the alpha version before the final version was released. If it's possible, I'd be willing to be a guinea pig again this time around even pre-beta. As my day job is as a freebsd sysadmin, I'm aware of the risks and workarounds.
Cheers,
Ryder
6 Posted by Ari on 20 Oct, 2014 02:04 PM
Hi,
I got the problem because I just updated to Yosemite without knowing that my GPG mail will not work. Real problems is that I cannot open open emails from the customers anymore due decrypting does not work on Mac. So emerging question is, Is there alternative way to open incoming and old mails while waiting Yosemite version of GPGmail. Thanks for quick help!
Cheers,
Ari
7 Posted by David on 20 Oct, 2014 02:57 PM
I think you guys are doing a great job and the compromise paying for a piece of software while maintaining it as open-source product is a great idea.
On one hand we get a great piece of software as an installable file and the other hand everyone can contribute and make it better. Thanks for all the work!
8 Posted by Tom on 20 Oct, 2014 07:54 PM
If it is not too much work ... setting up an email list to inform people about the progress of GPGmail for Yosemite would be very useful to announce betas and the final product.
Would save having to check back here all the time...
9 Posted by Tom on 20 Oct, 2014 09:51 PM
Yes, go for it. It's a good product, sometimes it has it's own mind and on some "rainy days" it's not working at all.
People need to eat and drink so, we should pay for your work :-)
May be this way we get it more stable and us more secure.
10 Posted by bob.davis on 21 Oct, 2014 08:15 AM
Happy to pay for your great product .. my advice make it an annual subscription.. rather than a pay per version model ..
also I use 3 computers, a home one, a work one and a laptop .. be good to only have it buy it once for all three devices .. so i suggest a payment per e-mail account perhaps ?? i use the same mail account on all three devices .. perhaps connect it to the key ??
anyway sure you have ideas on deployment .. perhaps this will give you the resources to look an an IOS version as well .. love to be abel to read an encrypted mail on my iPad
~Bob
11 Posted by Naganu Nanu on 21 Oct, 2014 04:28 PM
"**Ibob.davis**" wrote:
Do you work for Adobe, mate? That is the most ignorant advise one can give, unless you are trying to piss many people off.
Most users would rather pay for a version/upgrade, while knowing the version they bought will work for the OS version they have, than having an "annual subscription." What is next, a "cloud" version?
12 Posted by trebian on 21 Oct, 2014 05:00 PM
Hey Ari,
there is a way to decrypt Mails you get from your customers by hand.
Copy the crypted E-Mail text into a text edit field.
Mark the text and choose decrypt in context menu.
Mabe you have to activate this option first, by checking it in the GPG preferences.
Sorry if that wasn't helpful.
Dan
13 Posted by trebian on 21 Oct, 2014 05:02 PM
a hopefully helpful screenshot
14 Posted by Edward Snowden on 21 Oct, 2014 11:29 PM
Save the encrypted message to a text file. Select the text file in the Finder and then Services from the Finder menu, then OpenPGP: Decrypt File. A new unencrypted file will be created.
The content of the file will look like this:
-----BEGIN PGP MESSAGE----- Comment: GPGTools - https://gpgtools.org
hQIMA3GYLGhTpoZ1AQ/+Md9pPEg+HqKtaiqbDUO5opwSz0Z9RoY3mCwEJZiJAu7A
DELETED ASCII HERE
=quoy -----END PGP MESSAGE-----
15 Posted by Larry Dailey on 22 Oct, 2014 03:27 AM
As an alternative, the Airmail Beta seems to work fine with GPG tools. And, it's a very nice mail client.
I'm kind of a noob at this. So, your milage may vary.
But, to me the setup seemed easy. And it works.
16 Posted by bob.davis on 22 Oct, 2014 08:24 AM
Naganu Nanu ~
"Do you work for Adobe, mate? That is the most ignorant advise one can give, unless you are trying to piss many people off."
well no i don't work for adobe, but i do like to always run the current/latest version of OSX, so for me its important that the product and the version keeps moving forward.
I do work for a software company, so i know how much time, money and effort is required to create and maintain software ..
what's better the Adobe model, pay annually or monthly .. or the VMWare model .. sure you own that version but you really have to buy a new version every time the OS updates.. they both cost money the later only appeals if you don't plan to keep your OS moving forwards ..
at the end of the day i am sure the guys at GPGTools have their own preference .. and no doubt you will just pirate it anyway ..
17 Posted by Naganu Nanu on 22 Oct, 2014 10:45 AM
bob.davis,
I do not pirate. Charging a subscription will be piracy, indeed! I will take the VMWare model each time, which is was most are using: you pay for a version, which cover minor revisions, you pay for next version (full price, if new user) or upgrade to it for a discounted price (if current user). That works fine, time after time.
Considering the way you type (inconsistent capitalization, weird random punctuation marks, etc.), you certainly fit the pirate profile.
18 Posted by Naganu Nanu on 22 Oct, 2014 10:47 AM
Larry Dailey,
GPGTools has always worked. The issue with Yosemite is GPGMail (the plugin). The same you can do with Airmail and GPGTools you can do with Mail.app and GPGTools. I prefer Mail.app.
19 Posted by Ari on 22 Oct, 2014 02:10 PM
Thank you all for good tips!
I can now decrypt old and new messages :)
Cheers,
Ari
20 Posted by bc80921 on 22 Oct, 2014 08:03 PM
The level of professionalism in this thread is outstanding. I'm so impressed.
Generally speaking, a subscription model spreads the cost over a larger user base than the per upgrade model. One would have to crunch the numbers to see which one would work better for the company. One could guess that since this is security software there might be realized a 80% turnover on upgrades. Which may bring the on par numbers inline with the subscription model. In the end since we don't have the inside numbers we can only guess and express our preferences.
No need for the negative attitudes. Lets all keep our "internet" conversations professional. You wouldn't talk to your boss/mother in these terms.
21 Posted by Naganu Nanu on 22 Oct, 2014 08:24 PM
bc80921,
I agree I let my strong feelings against the subscription model take over me, and for that I apologize.
Future pricing should no be open to suggestions, really. They is for the future company to decide, not us.
Cheers!
22 Posted by james on 23 Oct, 2014 12:11 AM
i agree it is ultimately up to the developer how much they charge for their product but i think a wide public demographic is a good research base for them to make their decision on. these guys have given us their lives for our privacy and of-course those that appreciate that will pay them whatever they request. but seeing what the users need is the most important a has always been evident in the operation of the GPGTools team.
they know that some of the poorest people need access to privacy and security as much as the high end business man or politician. this has been brought up in another thread on this forum :- http://support.gpgtools.org/discussions/suggestions/35-gpgmail-cost
and some very interesting points on pricing schemes have been discussed not only by users but by gpg staff too
a quote Posted by Luke Le on Oct 19, 2014 @ 04:23 PM
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Hi everyone,
thank you for all your great suggestions!
The major issue with not having a pre-order form already up, is that we're still looking into the right service provider which will handle things like license creation, different methods for payment, VAT deduction for companies, volume/family pricing and other stuff. Since we're from Europe and not USA, this is much more difficult and the options limited.
We were thinking, that as a quick workaround we could adapt our current donation site to support pre-orders, so we have the time necessary to get the beta out, and later once we've found a good service provider, we'll switch to that system.
Would that be an acceptable option?
As for the price, we're still thinking about this a lot. We're absolutely on board with Twan. We don't want it to be too high for people with lesser means, since their security and privacy needs should be catered to (in some edge cases even more so) as much as those who could effort to pay more.
Markus, we would absolutely love being accepted in the App Store, since it would cause a lot less headaches as we basically could leverage possibly one of the biggest payment providers out there, but unfortunately that's not an option, since GPGMail is a plugin only using private API (since there is no API for Mail.app).
I'd like to add how it incredible it feels to receive so many positives responses. We were really scared putting that letter up and were only waiting for flame wars to start.
You can't imagine how much this means to us!
Thank you!
there are many suggestions on this board and i for one encourage people to speak up on the importance of GPG to them and how much they can afford to feasibly pay in areas in the world less wealthy than others for example.
any information the GPGTeam can get from us helps them make hard decisions about changes of this magnitude.
many thanks
james
23 Posted by Naganu Nanu on 23 Oct, 2014 01:51 PM
I find interesting the mentioning of pricing GPG Suite affordable enough for poor people. My train of thought:
Am I missing something?
24 Posted by steve on 23 Oct, 2014 02:06 PM
I feel that if a donation was made to the current project of an amount greater or equal to the final price, then donators should get the final release free, just IMHO of course
25 Posted by Naganu Nanu on 23 Oct, 2014 02:21 PM
steve,
A donation is a donation, not a purchase. I do not see entitlement on a donation.
26 Posted by wayne on 23 Oct, 2014 03:24 PM
naganu, i suggest we not make assumptions about an individual's ability to pay based upon their possession of- or access to- a Mac. Such an assumption is unfair. There are many possibilities where someone who is experiencing financial hardship may "have" a MAC even when they cannot afford one, such as students, seniors, someone who has recently lost their job, or a graduate who is hoping to find one. There are many MACs in libraries or open schools and civic centers that are available for short-term use (and even those machines may have been donated to the organization that would otherwise not have had the ability to make the purchase on their own).
We should keep in mind:
• The GPG Mail plugin is an important tool for many people of varying levels of wealth.
• Wealth should not be a limiting factor of a person's security.
• A possession is not an indicator of a person's wealth.
• GPG Mail enables many people a secure means of communication that they would otherwise not have if the plugin wasn't so simple to use.
• The developers of GPG Mail need to be financially supported for the work they do.
• The price point should be fair and perhaps padded enough to allow for "charitable" distribution to those people and institutions who cannot afford it otherwise.
27 Posted by Naganu Nanu on 23 Oct, 2014 03:33 PM
wayne,
GPG Mail is not a need. You can encrypt/decrypt, sign/verify without it. GPG Mail (the plugin, for those who might not know) is a usability luxury.
28 Posted by Phil on 24 Oct, 2014 03:21 PM
Hello,
I have a mac
I agree to pay
I use it professionally
When will it be ready
How much will it cost
Thank you
29 Posted by james.cutler on 24 Oct, 2014 05:25 PM
I'm ready to test GPGmail for Yosemite.
I'm ready to pay for GPGmail for Yosemite.
Keep me in mind.
30 Posted by Neo on 24 Oct, 2014 06:30 PM
I'm ready to test GPGmail for Yosemite.
I'm ready to pay for GPGmail for Yosemite.