tag:gpgtools.tenderapp.com,2011-11-04:/discussions/feedback/1137-gpg-for-yosemiteGPGTools: Discussion 2015-01-02T16:14:19Ztag:gpgtools.tenderapp.com,2011-11-04:Comment/348796262014-10-10T17:13:04Z2014-10-10T17:13:04ZGPG for Yosemite<div><p>Hi Chapeau,</p>
<p>this plan exists. But we do generally not give out any ETAs. So
if you rely on GPGMail, please wait, until we announce a working
version for the upcoming OS X 10.10.</p>
<p>All the best, steve</p></div>Stevetag:gpgtools.tenderapp.com,2011-11-04:Comment/348796262014-10-19T13:24:12Z2014-10-19T13:24:12ZGPG for Yosemite<div><p>Hi GPGTools-Team,<br>
Yosemite is out and installed.<br>
When will we get the new GPGMail Software that we can encryp our
mails again?<br>
All the best<br>
Dan</p></div>trebiantag:gpgtools.tenderapp.com,2011-11-04:Comment/348796262014-10-19T13:25:24Z2014-10-19T13:25:24ZGPG for Yosemite<div><p>We'll release a beta version as soon as possible.<br>
More info here: <a href=
"https://gpgtools.org/news">https://gpgtools.org/news</a></p>
<p>Best,<br>
Lukas</p></div>Luke Letag:gpgtools.tenderapp.com,2011-11-04:Comment/348796262014-10-20T11:03:51Z2014-10-20T11:03:53ZGPG for Yosemite<div><p>Hi. Thank you for your excellent efforts. I'll be happy to pay
for the upgraded product. The security as well as its ease to
install & use are well worth it.<br>
I just wanted to receive a notice for the Yosemite release of
PGPTools (couldn't find such a feature elsewhere)... hoping this
discussion entry will do the trick.<br>
If there is a better/preferred way, please let me know.<br>
Cheers!</p></div>Waynetag:gpgtools.tenderapp.com,2011-11-04:Comment/348796262014-10-20T13:10:37Z2014-10-20T13:10:38ZGPG for Yosemite<div><p>Hi Steve,</p>
<p>I'm a long-time user and former donor to the GPGMail project.
When Mavericks came out, I had a good deal of success with the
alpha version before the final version was released. If it's
possible, I'd be willing to be a guinea pig again this time around
even pre-beta. As my day job is as a freebsd sysadmin, I'm aware of
the risks and workarounds.</p>
<p>Cheers,<br>
Ryder</p></div>ryder.daintag:gpgtools.tenderapp.com,2011-11-04:Comment/348796262014-10-20T14:04:14Z2014-10-20T14:04:15ZGPG for Yosemite<div><p>Hi,</p>
<p>I got the problem because I just updated to Yosemite without
knowing that my GPG mail will not work. Real problems is that I
cannot open open emails from the customers anymore due decrypting
does not work on Mac. So emerging question is, Is there alternative
way to open incoming and old mails while waiting Yosemite version
of GPGmail. Thanks for quick help!<br>
Cheers,<br>
Ari</p></div>Aritag:gpgtools.tenderapp.com,2011-11-04:Comment/348796262014-10-20T14:57:00Z2014-10-21T14:10:17ZGPG for Yosemite<div><p>I think you guys are doing a great job and the compromise paying
for a piece of software while maintaining it as open-source product
is a great idea.<br>
On one hand we get a great piece of software as an installable file
and the other hand everyone can contribute and make it better.
Thanks for all the work!</p></div>Davidtag:gpgtools.tenderapp.com,2011-11-04:Comment/348796262014-10-20T19:54:20Z2014-10-20T19:54:21ZGPG for Yosemite<div><p>If it is not too much work ... setting up an email list to
inform people about the progress of GPGmail for Yosemite would be
very useful to announce betas and the final product.</p>
<p>Would save having to check back here all the time...</p></div>Tomtag:gpgtools.tenderapp.com,2011-11-04:Comment/348796262014-10-20T21:51:58Z2014-10-20T21:51:59ZGPG for Yosemite<div><p>Yes, go for it. It's a good product, sometimes it has it's own
mind and on some "rainy days" it's not working at all.</p>
<p>People need to eat and drink so, we should pay for your work
:-)</p>
<p>May be this way we get it more stable and us more secure.</p></div>Tomtag:gpgtools.tenderapp.com,2011-11-04:Comment/348796262014-10-21T08:15:26Z2014-10-21T08:15:26ZGPG for Yosemite<div><p>Happy to pay for your great product .. my advice make it an
annual subscription.. rather than a pay per version model ..</p>
<p>also I use 3 computers, a home one, a work one and a laptop ..
be good to only have it buy it once for all three devices .. so i
suggest a payment per e-mail account perhaps ?? i use the same mail
account on all three devices .. perhaps connect it to the key
??</p>
<p>anyway sure you have ideas on deployment .. perhaps this will
give you the resources to look an an IOS version as well .. love to
be abel to read an encrypted mail on my iPad</p>
<p>~Bob</p></div>bob.davistag:gpgtools.tenderapp.com,2011-11-04:Comment/348796262014-10-21T16:28:26Z2014-10-21T16:28:27ZGPG for Yosemite<div><p>"**Ibob.davis**" wrote:</p>
<blockquote>
<p><em>Happy to pay for your great product .. my advice make it an
annual subscription..</em> <em>rather than a pay per version model
..</em></p>
</blockquote>
<p>Do you work for Adobe, mate? That is the most ignorant advise
one can give, unless you are trying to piss many people off.</p>
<p>Most users would rather pay for a version/upgrade, while knowing
the version they bought will work for the OS version they have,
than having an "annual subscription." What is next, a "cloud"
version?</p></div>Naganu Nanutag:gpgtools.tenderapp.com,2011-11-04:Comment/348796262014-10-21T17:00:34Z2014-10-21T17:00:34ZGPG for Yosemite<div><p>Hey Ari,<br>
there is a way to decrypt Mails you get from your customers by
hand.</p>
<p>Copy the crypted E-Mail text into a text edit field.<br>
Mark the text and choose decrypt in context menu.</p>
<p>Mabe you have to activate this option first, by checking it in
the GPG preferences.</p>
<p>Sorry if that wasn't helpful.<br>
Dan</p></div>trebiantag:gpgtools.tenderapp.com,2011-11-04:Comment/348796262014-10-21T17:02:03Z2014-10-21T17:02:03ZGPG for Yosemite<div><p>a hopefully helpful screenshot</p></div>trebiantag:gpgtools.tenderapp.com,2011-11-04:Comment/348796262014-10-21T23:29:47Z2014-10-21T23:29:47ZGPG for Yosemite<div><p>Save the encrypted message to a text file. Select the text file
in the Finder and then Services from the Finder menu, then OpenPGP:
Decrypt File. A new unencrypted file will be created.</p>
<p>The content of the file will look like this:</p>
<p>-----BEGIN PGP MESSAGE----- Comment: GPGTools - <a href=
"https://gpgtools.org">https://gpgtools.org</a></p>
<p>
hQIMA3GYLGhTpoZ1AQ/+Md9pPEg+HqKtaiqbDUO5opwSz0Z9RoY3mCwEJZiJAu7A</p>
<p>DELETED ASCII HERE<br>
=quoy -----END PGP MESSAGE-----</p></div>Edward Snowdentag:gpgtools.tenderapp.com,2011-11-04:Comment/348796262014-10-22T03:27:21Z2014-10-22T03:27:22ZGPG for Yosemite<div><p>As an alternative, the Airmail Beta seems to work fine with GPG
tools. And, it's a very nice mail client.</p>
<p>I'm kind of a noob at this. So, your milage may vary.</p>
<p>But, to me the setup seemed easy. And it works.</p></div>Larry Daileytag:gpgtools.tenderapp.com,2011-11-04:Comment/348796262014-10-22T08:24:52Z2014-10-22T08:24:52ZGPG for Yosemite<div><p>Naganu Nanu ~</p>
<p>"Do you work for Adobe, mate? That is the most ignorant advise
one can give, unless you are trying to piss many people off."</p>
<p>well no i don't work for adobe, but i do like to always run the
current/latest version of OSX, so for me its important that the
product and the version keeps moving forward.</p>
<p>I do work for a software company, so i know how much time, money
and effort is required to create and maintain software ..</p>
<p>what's better the Adobe model, pay annually or monthly .. or the
VMWare model .. sure you own that version but you really have to
buy a new version every time the OS updates.. they both cost money
the later only appeals if you don't plan to keep your OS moving
forwards ..</p>
<p>at the end of the day i am sure the guys at GPGTools have their
own preference .. and no doubt you will just pirate it anyway
..</p></div>bob.davistag:gpgtools.tenderapp.com,2011-11-04:Comment/348796262014-10-22T10:45:23Z2014-10-22T10:45:23ZGPG for Yosemite<div><p><strong>bob.davis</strong>,</p>
<p>I do not pirate. Charging a subscription will be piracy, indeed!
I will take the VMWare model each time, which is was most are
using: you pay for a version, which cover minor revisions, you pay
for next version (full price, if new user) or upgrade to it for a
discounted price (if current user). That works fine, time after
time.</p>
<p>Considering the way you type (inconsistent capitalization, weird
random punctuation marks, etc.), you certainly fit the pirate
profile.</p></div>Naganu Nanutag:gpgtools.tenderapp.com,2011-11-04:Comment/348796262014-10-22T10:47:31Z2014-10-22T10:47:32ZGPG for Yosemite<div><p><strong>Larry Dailey</strong>,</p>
<p>GPGTools has always worked. The issue with Yosemite is GPGMail
(the plugin). The same you can do with Airmail and GPGTools you can
do with Mail.app and GPGTools. I prefer Mail.app.</p></div>Naganu Nanutag:gpgtools.tenderapp.com,2011-11-04:Comment/348796262014-10-22T14:10:39Z2014-10-22T14:10:41ZGPG for Yosemite<div><p>Thank you all for good tips!<br>
I can now decrypt old and new messages :)</p>
<p>Cheers,<br>
Ari</p></div>Aritag:gpgtools.tenderapp.com,2011-11-04:Comment/348796262014-10-22T20:03:22Z2014-10-22T20:03:25ZGPG for Yosemite<div><p>The level of professionalism in this thread is outstanding. I'm
so impressed.</p>
<p>Generally speaking, a subscription model spreads the cost over a
larger user base than the per upgrade model. One would have to
crunch the numbers to see which one would work better for the
company. One could guess that since this is security software there
might be realized a 80% turnover on upgrades. Which may bring the
on par numbers inline with the subscription model. In the end since
we don't have the inside numbers we can only guess and express our
preferences.</p>
<p>No need for the negative attitudes. Lets all keep our "internet"
conversations professional. You wouldn't talk to your boss/mother
in these terms.</p></div>bc80921tag:gpgtools.tenderapp.com,2011-11-04:Comment/348796262014-10-22T20:24:27Z2014-10-22T20:24:30ZGPG for Yosemite<div><p><strong>bc80921</strong>,</p>
<p>I agree I let my strong feelings against the subscription model
take over me, and for that I apologize.</p>
<p>Future pricing should no be open to suggestions, really. They is
for the future company to decide, not us.</p>
<p>Cheers!</p></div>Naganu Nanutag:gpgtools.tenderapp.com,2011-11-04:Comment/348796262014-10-23T00:11:12Z2014-10-23T00:11:16ZGPG for Yosemite<div><p>i agree it is ultimately up to the developer how much they
charge for their product but i think a wide public demographic is a
good research base for them to make their decision on. these guys
have given us their lives for our privacy and of-course those that
appreciate that will pay them whatever they request. but seeing
what the users need is the most important a has always been evident
in the operation of the GPGTools team.</p>
<p>they know that some of the poorest people need access to privacy
and security as much as the high end business man or politician.
this has been brought up in another thread on this forum :-
<a href="http://support.gpgtools.org/discussions/suggestions/35-gpgmail-cost">
http://support.gpgtools.org/discussions/suggestions/35-gpgmail-cost</a></p>
<p>and some very interesting points on pricing schemes have been
discussed not only by users but by gpg staff too</p>
<p>a quote Posted by Luke Le on Oct 19, 2014 @ 04:23 PM</p>
<p>Luke Le's Avatar<br>
Hi everyone,</p>
<p>thank you for all your great suggestions!<br>
The major issue with not having a pre-order form already up, is
that we're still looking into the right service provider which will
handle things like license creation, different methods for payment,
VAT deduction for companies, volume/family pricing and other stuff.
Since we're from Europe and not USA, this is much more difficult
and the options limited.<br>
We were thinking, that as a quick workaround we could adapt our
current donation site to support pre-orders, so we have the time
necessary to get the beta out, and later once we've found a good
service provider, we'll switch to that system.</p>
<p>Would that be an acceptable option?</p>
<p>As for the price, we're still thinking about this a lot. We're
absolutely on board with Twan. We don't want it to be too high for
people with lesser means, since their security and privacy needs
should be catered to (in some edge cases even more so) as much as
those who could effort to pay more.</p>
<p>Markus, we would absolutely love being accepted in the App
Store, since it would cause a lot less headaches as we basically
could leverage possibly one of the biggest payment providers out
there, but unfortunately that's not an option, since GPGMail is a
plugin only using private API (since there is no API for
Mail.app).</p>
<p>I'd like to add how it incredible it feels to receive so many
positives responses. We were really scared putting that letter up
and were only waiting for flame wars to start.<br>
You can't imagine how much this means to us!<br>
Thank you!</p>
<p>there are many suggestions on this board and i for one encourage
people to speak up on the importance of GPG to them and how much
they can afford to feasibly pay in areas in the world less wealthy
than others for example.</p>
<p>any information the GPGTeam can get from us helps them make hard
decisions about changes of this magnitude.</p>
<p>many thanks<br>
james</p></div>jamestag:gpgtools.tenderapp.com,2011-11-04:Comment/348796262014-10-23T13:51:01Z2014-10-23T13:51:09ZGPG for Yosemite<div><p>I find interesting the mentioning of pricing GPG Suite
affordable enough for poor people. My train of thought:</p>
<ul>
<li>GPG is free, no one needs GPG Suite to use GPG.</li>
<li>GPG Mail (plugin) is made to work with Mail.app, on the Mac
platform.</li>
<li>If you use Mail.app, you have a Mac, which costs hundreds if
not thousand+ of dollars.</li>
<li>If people are not poor enough to afford a Mac, they are not
poor enough the pay for the comfort (not need) of GPG Mail, or GPG
Suite as a whole.</li>
</ul>
<p>Am I missing something?</p></div>Naganu Nanutag:gpgtools.tenderapp.com,2011-11-04:Comment/348796262014-10-23T14:06:08Z2014-10-23T14:06:18ZGPG for Yosemite<div><p>I feel that if a donation was made to the current project of an
amount greater or equal to the final price, then donators should
get the final release free, just IMHO of course</p></div>stevetag:gpgtools.tenderapp.com,2011-11-04:Comment/348796262014-10-23T14:21:16Z2014-10-23T14:21:23ZGPG for Yosemite<div><p><strong>steve</strong>,</p>
<p>A donation is a donation, not a purchase. I do not see
entitlement on a donation.</p></div>Naganu Nanutag:gpgtools.tenderapp.com,2011-11-04:Comment/348796262014-10-23T15:24:48Z2014-10-23T15:24:49ZGPG for Yosemite<div><p>naganu, i suggest we not make assumptions about an individual's
ability to pay based upon their possession of- or access to- a Mac.
Such an assumption is unfair. There are many possibilities where
someone who is experiencing financial hardship may "have" a MAC
even when they cannot afford one, such as students, seniors,
someone who has recently lost their job, or a graduate who is
hoping to find one. There are many MACs in libraries or open
schools and civic centers that are available for short-term use
(and even those machines may have been donated to the organization
that would otherwise not have had the ability to make the purchase
on their own).<br>
We should keep in mind:<br>
• The GPG Mail plugin is an important tool for many people of
varying levels of wealth.<br>
• Wealth should not be a limiting factor of a person's
security.<br>
• A possession is not an indicator of a person's wealth.<br>
• GPG Mail enables many people a secure means of
communication that they would otherwise not have if the plugin
wasn't so simple to use.<br>
• The developers of GPG Mail need to be financially supported
for the work they do.<br>
• The price point should be fair and perhaps padded enough to
allow for "charitable" distribution to those people and
institutions who cannot afford it otherwise.</p></div>waynetag:gpgtools.tenderapp.com,2011-11-04:Comment/348796262014-10-23T15:33:42Z2014-10-23T15:33:42ZGPG for Yosemite<div><p><strong>wayne</strong>,</p>
<p>GPG Mail is not a need. You can encrypt/decrypt, sign/verify
without it. GPG Mail (the plugin, for those who might not know) is
a usability luxury.</p></div>Naganu Nanutag:gpgtools.tenderapp.com,2011-11-04:Comment/348796262014-10-24T15:21:50Z2014-10-24T15:21:52ZGPG for Yosemite<div><p>Hello,<br>
I have a mac<br>
I agree to pay<br>
I use it professionally</p>
<p>When will it be ready<br>
How much will it cost</p>
<p>Thank you</p></div>Philtag:gpgtools.tenderapp.com,2011-11-04:Comment/348796262014-10-24T17:25:25Z2014-10-24T17:25:27ZGPG for Yosemite<div><p>I'm ready to test GPGmail for Yosemite.</p>
<p>I'm ready to pay for GPGmail for Yosemite.</p>
<p>Keep me in mind.</p></div>james.cutlertag:gpgtools.tenderapp.com,2011-11-04:Comment/348796262014-10-24T18:30:35Z2014-10-24T18:30:36ZGPG for Yosemite<div><p>I'm ready to test GPGmail for Yosemite.<br>
I'm ready to pay for GPGmail for Yosemite.</p></div>Neo