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Wal Vis

28 Oct, 2014 12:22 PM

As multi operating system user (as AS400, *IX, Win32/64) well to me it does not matter much what your favourite nintendo is :-)

But as information and communication technology collective we are shooting at the wrong people, the ones that need to be offloaded are the ones that prevent or do whatever to prevent a free flow of information, support, creativity and so forth...

In my head target number one is the NSA and the western world should really think about who is benefitting most of global divida et impera.

Because I have made my fair share of contribution to the whole (as in support, coding, creativity, ....)

I watched the birth of Google, the birth of Minix, the pirate bay, youtube, .... and witnessed what happened with Julian Assange, Edward Snowden, Peter Sunde, Gottfrid Svartholm, ...

Extremist views never lead to solution the add to complexity and global problems.

Yet still we a humanity have to work harder, faster, stronger, more more more more to have (yes I'm going to use the Anonymous rhetoric) to have the 1% club have more so they can buy a bigger boat, a bigger house a bigger bolder faster stronger.... what? ego?

Pyramid models are prone to error and for sure they will fail.

I perfectly undestand the stance of not wanting to support without any ROI either short or long term.

Then again, I'm from the pitfall of all, the global testlab called belgium, for some reason people think that we as people can be used a testlab to test terror, diseases, drugs, whatever....

Which is against our own constitution and which is against the US constitution or any called 'democracy'. Democracy to the power of 3 is democraZy, window dressing, due my duty work ... scapegoat.

My two cents.


Wal Vis

  1. Support Staff 1 Posted by Steve on 28 Oct, 2014 05:49 PM

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    Hi Wal,

    is your point that you understand but disagree with our decision? I'm not sure I do get the bottom line of this post correctly.

    Best, steve

  2. 2 Posted by Wal on 28 Oct, 2014 08:03 PM

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    I agree :) gpg is an essential tool and that has a cost to end user and developer.

    Has anyone taken this up yet with Apple? If not I would be happy to do so. I'm not on their payroll (not on anyone - no profit model here) but I would like to see some trust restored and some consensus reached. Some sort of of UN on global ICT or something as te ITU is supposed to do (but seems to be failing)



  3. 3 Posted by Robert Maxwell on 29 Oct, 2014 12:29 AM

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    I understand the need to move from the donation model to a pay model, we all have rent to pay. Just my two cents here, but I use a GPG app on my iPhone and iPad called OpenGP and it cost me $3.99 USD, and I would be comfortable paying for GPGTools (including all of the tools) up to $20 USD if the updates for minor versions were included. I have no issue paying for major version upgrades as long as it truly works and we can get support when needed. Is there a reason why this application suite of tools hasn't been made available via the Mac App Store?


  4. 4 Posted by M on 29 Oct, 2014 03:36 AM

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    I think that by moving to a premium software, you'll be tarnishing the brand name you've worked so hard to obtain. I'm not saying it wouldn't be worth it, but this far down the road after so many free products doesn't sit well on my stomach.

    How about a single user license free option, and if you need to lock down more than one email address, you pay for that ability?

    Or, open the source code up and let the Open Source community take it over and create a new product, or charge for the support.

    I think encryption is a right of sorts, for those who want to use it. Training people on how to use it is a different discussion, but providing the means for someone to make it happen is just the right thing to do. Could take a cue from RedHat, who charges for their business class product and annual license fees, but offers up Fedora for free to the Open Source community for tinkering and upstream releases.

    You'd get more respect from me for closing down the project entirely than to move to a strict paid product model. Its also not clearly defined, would one be paying for that one version, and have to buy subsequent upgrades? If so, this is just adding to the list of problematic softwares that people have to buy on regular intervals because they were forced to, like Microsoft Office & it's widespread use necessitating people to stay up to date.

    I truly hope you explore more than one opportunity/option, not just "OK time to pay up." Give the single user license some serious thought -- if the product is truly worth it, the $$$ will come.

  5. 5 Posted by Wal on 29 Oct, 2014 04:37 AM

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    I think that the GPL license is the culprit.... GPL and App store does not work.

    Which does not prevent distribution outside the App store.

    Maybe this would be the best solution, just ask 20$ for it, take this up with Apple.



  6. Support Staff 6 Posted by Steve on 17 Dec, 2014 07:48 PM

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    yep, GPL and AppStore are no friends.

    We still have to figure out details. Until then there's a free beta which works rather solid on 10.10 (from what I've heard).

    I'm closing this discussion. Thanks you all for speaking up and letting us hear your thoughts and concerns. We do appreciate that.


  7. Steve closed this discussion on 17 Dec, 2014 07:48 PM.

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