tag:gpgtools.tenderapp.com,2011-11-04:/discussions/beta/640-discontinuation-of-free-version-for-yosemiteGPGTools: Discussion 2015-05-28T17:03:23Ztag:gpgtools.tenderapp.com,2011-11-04:Comment/357305632015-01-09T12:19:20Z2015-01-09T12:19:21ZDiscontinuation of free version for Yosemite<div><p>Good software can not be free, because people want to life from
theier daily work... My decision: I want to pay for a good piece of
software, especially for security software.</p>
<p>Ask yourself: Would you produce any software every year for
free? every year? And more and more people asking you (not friendly
everytime..) "i want to have this, i want to have that", "why is
support so bad", "hey make software for iOS/Android/whatever"...
and nobody appreciate your work? You spend all your personal free
time to develop a pice of software but half of the users are grumpy
all the time? I think you dont want this!<br>
And so would your decision be the same: Why should I (!!) spend all
my free time to develope and fix a product for free, if thousands
of users use it for free?</p>
<p>With a little bit of money, you can help all the developers to
create a wonderful (and useful) piece of software. Buying an iPhone
for more than 600 Dollars but want to play apps for free... This is
not the right decision. Think about this</p></div>PeterPtag:gpgtools.tenderapp.com,2011-11-04:Comment/357305632015-01-09T14:03:09Z2015-01-09T14:03:10ZDiscontinuation of free version for Yosemite<div><p>Dear Peter,</p>
<p>I don't want to offend, but I would like you to rethink your
first statement as<br>
a) I assume you don't want to call the whole Linux ecosystem
<em>including gnupg's sourcecode</em> bad software<br>
b) there are <em>are</em> actually a lot of people spending spare
time maintaining free software (including me!). So I can answer
your first question with a definite "yes". I did so and I am trying
hard to do so in the future as well, and yes, everyone doing that
experiences demotivating feedback from badly behaving users.</p>
<p>Saying that, I do appreciate your decision to pay for good
software.<br>
That does help free software development for sure.</p>
<p>But maybe you could see my point, if you had only once tried to
make <em>all</em> your offline-friends (who occasionally send you
an email) use encryption.<br>
Please try that yourself, while seeking money for a binary copy of
gpgtools, and report how you managed to achieve that. I would
really like to learn how to do that, as it is already hard for me
to get people into gpg even if I promise to set it up for them.</p>
<p>If you offer a recipe, how to not scare away new users, I'm
totally fine with selling binary versions. So if you have some
<em>good</em> argument that convinces all my friends, that they
shall pay for gpgtools, please tell me!</p>
<p>But otherwise I would like you to rethink your decision of
discouraging binary downloads provided by a third party.</p>
<p>Finally I want to state, that I do agree on your statement, that
the attitude of paying huge amounts for hardware but nothing for
software is questionable.<br>
Nevertheless I do not see how this topic was brought up by my
initial post and I would like to bring the discussion back to my
initial points.</p>
<p>Best regards!</p></div>gpg enthusiasttag:gpgtools.tenderapp.com,2011-11-04:Comment/357305632015-01-10T21:14:03Z2015-01-10T21:14:05ZDiscontinuation of free version for Yosemite<div><p>Of course, i can see your point of view! had the same discussion
with my friends for canging from whatsapp to threema. Why buing
another software? WA is for free (first year...) and nearly 95% of
all my frieds use it. Threema costs about 1,99 Dollar once - most
of my friends are not in good mood to change.. but hardware,
development etc. isn't for free, so i pay for (my) security.</p>
<p>Encryption for free is the best way! No discussions... it helps
spreading.</p>
<p>I also hope gpgtools would not cost more than 5 dollars (e.g.)
Smalll price = lot of users = more security and a little bit of
credits for the developers.<br>
Hope they sell it over Mac AppStore...<br>
And maybe you will get the binarys..</p>
<p>Best regards!</p></div>PeterPtag:gpgtools.tenderapp.com,2011-11-04:Comment/357305632015-01-11T20:24:26Z2015-01-11T20:24:27ZDiscontinuation of free version for Yosemite<div><p>Both sides here have strong points. It's a chicken-and-egg
situation, as you have to make the software friendly in order for
people to adopt it, and people have to adopt it to make it worth
developing.</p>
<p>In the end I think I decide "encrypted communications is too
important to be left for people to develop out of their own free
time and free will".</p>
<p>One of the worries geeks-at-large have about encryption software
developers is the possibility of them being corrupted by an 'evil
entity' or a government. If they can be paid (at least) reasonably
for their time, I think that chance is diminished.</p></div>Michael Millertag:gpgtools.tenderapp.com,2011-11-04:Comment/357305632015-01-19T17:43:35Z2015-01-19T17:43:35ZDiscontinuation of free version for Yosemite<div><p>Why not just do a Kickstarter or Indiegogo, or get corporate
support?</p>
<p>Seems far better that shaking down average folks, or only those
that can pay to have security will have it.</p>
<p>PS: I'm a student living in a van, so I can't afford it.</p></div>GHHtag:gpgtools.tenderapp.com,2011-11-04:Comment/357305632015-01-21T18:40:13Z2015-01-21T18:40:14ZDiscontinuation of free version for Yosemite<div><p>While I also lament the proposal to charge for GPGMail, I wanted
to ask about licensing plans. I am part of a large company which
uses GPG to provide non-repudiation and confidentiality for
business functions. My question is, will the GPGTools team plan on
providing a volume licensing plan to help with larger groups who
need to use GPG for daily work.</p></div>Craig Lorentzentag:gpgtools.tenderapp.com,2011-11-04:Comment/357305632015-01-22T09:03:01Z2015-01-22T09:03:01ZDiscontinuation of free version for Yosemite<div><p>I also would like to point out that providing a better way to
donate to GPG (also fr example by means of crypto currency and/or a
kickstarter project) would be much better.</p>
<p>I will not be able to convince my parents, my friends or the
greater public to pay for GPG in the future... :-(</p></div>Alexander