GPGMail beta expired, no new version available
GPGMail keeps quitting Mail.app for me with a message about the beta being expired. There is no new beta. There is no final version. There is no option to pay. According to the announcement, the beta has been out for less than a week. This is really annoying. If you really want to put expiration into a beta, test it a bit more thoroughly next time.
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Support Staff 1 Posted by Steve on 11 Nov, 2014 11:16 AM
Hi glyph,
we now have a new GPGMail beta fixing this very annoying bug.
It would be great if you could install the new build and let us know if this fixes the problem as it should.
To test, please follow these steps:
1.) Download the new GPGMail version:
https://releases.gpgtools.org/GPGMail-2.5b1-790.dmg
(GPG Signature can be found at: https://releases.gpgtools.org/GPGMail-2.5b1-790.dmg.sig)
2.) Simply run the installer (no need to uninstall it first)
(Should you have uninstalled GPG Suite in the meantime, please re-run the Yosemite-Beta1 installer and after that, install this new GPGMail version)
3.) Open Mail.app -> Preferences -> GPGMail and make sure you're seeing build 790b
4.) Let us know if everything works as expected now
Thanks!
2 Posted by glyph on 11 Nov, 2014 11:21 AM
I've installed it. The expiration message is intermittent, so I will have to wait and see if the error recurs. The longer you don't hear from me, the longer I haven't seen the message :).
-glyph
Support Staff 3 Posted by Steve on 11 Nov, 2014 11:22 AM
Sure :)
Please do keep us posted.
4 Posted by glyph on 30 Nov, 2014 11:11 PM
Just saw another expiry message, did a "check for update" in the system preferences UI, and no update was available.
At least it didn't make me quit Mail this time.
-g
5 Posted by Gremlin on 30 Nov, 2014 11:20 PM
Still get the expired message. Uninstalled, rebooted, installed again...still the same message. Obviously can't check which version Mail thinks is installed because....it isn't there...
Support Staff 6 Posted by Luke Le on 30 Nov, 2014 11:21 PM
Beta 3 will be available shortly.
We're almost done preparing it.
7 Posted by bigzbz on 30 Nov, 2014 11:37 PM
My GPG settings is completely gone from the Preference section of Mail. I cannot check anything.
8 Posted by ritstan on 30 Nov, 2014 11:51 PM
I uninstalled the expired version and installed this. https://releases.gpgtools.org/GPGMail-2.5b1-790.dmg
nothing on my preferences that even remotely says GPGMail.
9 Posted by glyph on 30 Nov, 2014 11:51 PM
If you don't have the resources to prepare your expiring betas on time to avoid people seeing this message, perhaps don't put time bombs in your software?
10 Posted by 507045d1 on 01 Dec, 2014 12:42 AM
what does that mean? are you trying to be mean because it is your nature? I refuse to accept your rudeness kind sir/madam, and so, it is all yours.
But my question is a follow on from the others who had experienced the same issue. If you do not know the answer, please allow someone else who has the time or the kindness to reply. This world has enough angry, rude people and you do not need to show your badge here.
11 Posted by ritstan on 01 Dec, 2014 12:43 AM
Dear Glyph.
what does that mean? are you trying to be mean because it is your nature? we refuse to accept your rudeness kind sir/madam, and so, it is all yours. You can keep it.
But my question is a follow on from the others who had experienced the same issue. If you do not know the answer, please allow someone else who has the time or the kindness to reply. This world has enough angry, rude people and you do not need to show your badge here.
12 Posted by bigzbz on 01 Dec, 2014 12:53 AM
I agree don't be mean glyph.
13 Posted by jcr on 01 Dec, 2014 01:03 AM
Although Glyph could have put it less bluntly, s/he has a point. If things are going to expire and disable themselves, it is pretty critical to have the replacement ready in time. Maybe even a few days ahead of time.
I get it that unexpected things come up, but once you put an expiry timer in something you have kind of committed to having something up to replace it before then. Even if it an interim solution of the exact same code but with the expiry timer extended.
14 Posted by winternight on 01 Dec, 2014 01:21 AM
I agree with Glyph, this is very unprofessional. I'm a supporter of GPGMail and I intend to buy the final version but if your beta builds have an expiry date (hardcoded I guess), please make sure you have a new version available before your software stops working.
Support Staff 15 Posted by Steve on 01 Dec, 2014 01:30 AM
Hi all,
you will find our new release beta 3 on https://gpgtools.org
We're very sorry for the short GPGMail outage.
Kind regards,
steve
16 Posted by glyph on 01 Dec, 2014 01:42 AM
Thank you for the update. Installed and it seems to be working again.
To be clear to some of my critics on this message, I did not intend to be "mean". When I said "time bomb", I was referring to the fairly standard jargon term: <https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Time_bomb_(software) <https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Time_bomb_(software)>>, not making a pejorative statement about the software. And I don't blame the GPGTools team for being low on resources; it's a situation I'm intimately familiar with myself. I was just suggesting that since this was the second time they've missed their self-imposed deadline to get a new beta out, it might be less detrimental to their user-base's confidence if they used some other mechanism to encourage people to upgrade.
17 Posted by bigzbz on 01 Dec, 2014 01:43 AM
Works perfectly, thanks guy!
18 Posted by winternight on 01 Dec, 2014 09:48 AM
Thanks, it's working perfectly.
My comment was also not intended to be "mean". There are, however, better methods to disable a beta release than a fixed, hardcoded, date -- especially if you are not sure you can meet your self-imposed deadlines.
19 Posted by glyph on 30 Dec, 2014 11:11 PM
Once again the beta has expired, encryption is broken in my email client, and no update is available. You should really be shipping the betas BEFORE the beta expires if you insist on continuing to do this. It's disruptive.
I should note that a software time bomb was the original reason that Stallman started GNU; the whole point of free software is so that we can hypothetically modify software to not do exactly this.
20 Posted by winternight on 30 Dec, 2014 11:17 PM
Unfortunately I have to agree with glyph once again. Please either remove the timebomb or release your betas early.
Also, December 31st might not be a good date to expire a beta.
21 Posted by winternight on 30 Dec, 2014 11:24 PM
I see that you have posted a beta4, but the download link is dead:
The requested URL /GPG Suite - 2014.12-b4.dmg was not found on this server.
22 Posted by dtich on 30 Dec, 2014 11:30 PM
yes, chiming in-- more notice on beta expiry! and the b4 file is dl'ing at winter snail's pace.. crapping out as well.
uncool.
thx. (supporter.)
23 Posted by viam on 30 Dec, 2014 11:34 PM
Same here. Beta expired today, Dec 30th, 2014. New Beta 4 download is apparently available but seems problematic; extremely slow to nil data transferred over the wire.
24 Posted by slammingrooves on 30 Dec, 2014 11:47 PM
I'm having the same problem - I tried about 5 times over the last hour or so, and it starts out slow, then dies after about 2 MB of transfer.
25 Posted by Vince I on 31 Dec, 2014 12:08 AM
Same problem, could not download Beta 4 using links provided.
26 Posted by Igor on 31 Dec, 2014 12:11 AM
Beta 3 expired, the link to Beta 4 is broken.
27 Posted by dtich on 31 Dec, 2014 01:45 AM
finally downloaded and installed. fwiw.
thx for staying on it gents. appreciated.
28 Posted by viam on 31 Dec, 2014 02:36 AM
Same as ditch - Appears all is well again. FWIW, I recall awhile back that a gpgtools support team member recommended that it was unnecessary to uninstall the previous beta version before installing the latest beta; he advised simply installing over existing version. This method worked for me. Cheers.
29 Posted by glyph on 31 Dec, 2014 02:48 AM
Just finally installed beta 4 after about 2 dozen failed downloads. It seems to be pre-expired.
Support Staff 30 Posted by Steve on 31 Dec, 2014 02:50 AM
Hi all,
our servers should be back up and running. Sorry again for the problems.
Thank you all for your feedback and concern.
All the best,
steve