tag:gpgtools.tenderapp.com,2011-11-04:/discussions/problems/87953-how-is-a-primary-missing-sec-key-denoted-in-gpgtoolsGPGTools: Discussion 2019-02-12T14:26:51Ztag:gpgtools.tenderapp.com,2011-11-04:Comment/463370422018-10-24T00:10:45Z2018-10-24T00:10:46ZGPG Keychain: how is a primary missing sec key denoted in GPG Keychain?<div><p>I meant of course GPG Keychain, not GPGTools. (Unfortunately I can neither change the title, nor edit the text. I cannot even delete my own topic.)</p></div>K. C. Tessarektag:gpgtools.tenderapp.com,2011-11-04:Comment/463370422018-11-05T01:36:40Z2018-11-05T01:36:40ZGPG Keychain: how is a primary missing sec key denoted in GPG Keychain?<div><p>Any comment?</p></div>Helmut K. C. Tessarektag:gpgtools.tenderapp.com,2011-11-04:Comment/463370422019-02-05T14:12:38Z2019-02-05T14:12:38ZGPG Keychain: how is a primary missing sec key denoted in GPG Keychain?<div><p>Hello? Any update or feedback?</p></div>Helmut K. C. Tessarektag:gpgtools.tenderapp.com,2011-11-04:Comment/463370422019-02-11T07:28:26Z2019-02-11T10:27:46ZGPG Keychain: how is a primary missing sec key denoted in GPG Keychain?<div><p>Hi Helmut,</p>
<p>GPG Keychain shows a '#' in Details -> Card.<br>
This is a very advanced feature, so it has no beautiful user interface.<br>
Does this answer your question?</p>
<p>Regards, Mento</p></div>Mentotag:gpgtools.tenderapp.com,2011-11-04:Comment/463370422019-02-12T13:24:52Z2019-02-12T13:28:52ZGPG Keychain: how is a primary missing sec key denoted in GPG Keychain?<div><p>Thanks Mento for the info. Yes, this answers my question. Thank you.</p>
<p>A beautiful UI is not really necessary as long as the functionality is available. I have noticed though that the app is less and less usable for people who are experts at gpg. You made decisions as developers what is actually done (e.g. signing the main key does not sign all subkeys, or something similar - I can't recall all the weird behaviour I have experienced) by the UI which makes no sense for an expert and is detrimental to the command line. It's a pitty, because it's a great app, but I don't dare to use it anymore to edit keys, because it doesn't do what I expect it to do.</p>
<p>Anyway, it's still good enough for me to browse through the keys in my key ring.</p>
<p>Cheers,<br>
K. C.</p></div>Helmut K. C. Tessarektag:gpgtools.tenderapp.com,2011-11-04:Comment/463370422019-02-12T13:32:23Z2019-02-12T13:32:23ZGPG Keychain: how is a primary missing sec key denoted in GPG Keychain?<div><p>Thanks for taking the time to share your feelings about GPG Keychain and the new dialog to sign keys.</p>
<p>To sign all user IDs in a key you need to make sure you tick all email addresses in the key signing dialog and you should be good.</p>
<p>This has been changed because non expert users would otherwise always sign the entire key without having verified all user IDs. So this prevents more damage than it does, or that was our hope when we changed the key signing dialog.</p></div>Stevetag:gpgtools.tenderapp.com,2011-11-04:Comment/463370422019-02-12T13:41:20Z2019-02-12T13:41:20ZGPG Keychain: how is a primary missing sec key denoted in GPG Keychain?<div><p>Thanks again for the info. I understand that you want to make the app easy to use for non-experts, but in that case there should be 2 settings (beginner, expert).</p>
<p>In any case, this was only one example and I could tell you about algo prefs only available when using the experts defaults key (even though algo prefs is not truly an expert setting), but I don't want to use this ticket to discuss these matters.</p></div>Helmut K. C. Tessarektag:gpgtools.tenderapp.com,2011-11-04:Comment/463370422019-02-12T14:26:44Z2019-02-12T14:26:44ZGPG Keychain: how is a primary missing sec key denoted in GPG Keychain?<div><p>I'm closing this discussion. Should you need further assistance or have questions you can re-open this discussion here or open a new one any time.</p>
<p>Best,<br>
Steve</p></div>Steve