macOS Sierra Sierra support
I am sorry to ask this question again, but when can we expect a
working version of GPGTools for macOS ?
Since the beta release of macOS I have installed so many updates of
the GPGTools always
hoping that it works now, but it didn't. Did Apple change so many
things that you have a hard time
to adapt GPGTools ? Was the beta period of macOS too short for an
adaptation?
Do not get me wrong I am not complaining I am just getting impatient.
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1 Posted by Andre on 03 Oct, 2016 11:55 AM
Hi
first of all i am not a developer of Gpgp Tools or involved to this Software !
Apple have changed many things in Sierra OS one of them is the Gatekeeper "App Translocation" a closer Look give you that Site here:
http://weblog.rogueamoeba.com/2016/06/29/sierra-and-gatekeeper-path...
With such Security Features it was very hard to develop Apps without a Apple Developer Certificate or without bring it to App Store
In short this Function does make a writhe protected dmg File (like a Ram Disk) in private/ver/folders/xxx and copy the Code there and start it from that hidden Disk.
Many many Apps looks like work normal but some and realy only some Features breaks like Automatic Updates or writing to own App Bundle (Disk is Protected by Gatekeeper).
A simple test can show you if one or more of your Apps affected by that Problem, start Activity Manager double click App go to Open Files and Ports and look if you see there Files that are open from private/ver/folders/xxx Path.
If yes this app or very often only part of that Apps are Gatekeeper Protected .
This is only one Example what Problems Apple made for all Developers outside the Appstore.
best
Andre
PS if you will use a Solution buy Postbox and use the GPGP Plugin, postbox is in many ways better than Apple Mail and GPGP works here since years without Problems.
2 Posted by Vertex on 03 Oct, 2016 12:30 PM
Thank you Andre for the detailed explanation. I think it makes it easier for all users to understand the complex problems the developers struggling with.
P.S.: I tried out Postbox a long time ago, maybe I will try it again. Thanks for the hint.
Vertex
3 Posted by Andre on 03 Oct, 2016 01:31 PM
Hi
Postbox V5 is out since a few Days, cool Look and very near Apple Mail with a some cool Enhancements (Plugins) it was a very cool app
best
Andre
4 Posted by martin on 03 Oct, 2016 02:40 PM
Hello,
As far as I understand, Apple has made so many changes to MacOS Sierra that making plugins etc for pre-installed apps is almost impossible.
Does that mean that GPGMail will not work on Sierra at all?
I'm using Voiceover, and I'm so used to Apple Mail that switching to another client could be a challenge.
I don't know if this has anything to do with GPGMail or not, but after a short test of Sierra, (I didn't know that GPGMail was not compatible at that time), all mails received in El Capitan was "empty", at least with Voiceover enabled.s
5 Posted by martin on 03 Oct, 2016 02:43 PM
Sorry for the typo errors in my last message, but navigating edit fealds in Safari 10 on El Capitan is a real mess with Voiceover.
6 Posted by Andre on 03 Oct, 2016 03:49 PM
Hi Martin,
i not know about the status go gpgmail and what the developers do at this time.
But i am sure that gpgmail and hole suite will work on sierra like it does on all others before.
Apple earn not realy many Money with Laptops and Computers only round about 15 % hole rest are the other Apple Products, maybe you know a few years ago apple stop the server Computers .
That servers was goos pice of Hardware but brings not that Money that Apple get with a simple launch of a watch.
The "Apple" way and i am not sure if that also be Steve Job´s way was a Device that is completely managed by Apple like the new iPads and Phones, no way get own Software running no way (legal way) to bring your own developments to such Devices and so far.
Sierra is like Captain before a step to that way for now you can use your own Software and own Apps but every app that cost no money or is not s sell in apples App Store bring apple no Money.
I use apple Products (not all i am not a fanboy ) but i absolutely don´t like the way apple goes here i need not a Operating System that disallows me using what i want and put apps where i want.
A clear word here, Security is sitting in front of the Computer no Software and no Operating system can do that Job that your and my brain must do. Thats why i not like such Function, Gatekeeper and hole other Process that will save me and you is at last end a mechanism to control what we will use or can use and not to save us.
It was for binding us to Appstore, in a few Years you will see a Apple OS that will only be running Apps from Apple own Appstore.
Apple than will know what you use went you use and why you use it, such a Profile is better than every Facebook Teeny Webpage.
In my eyes that way is a wrong one and i will leave that way until the Time coms that Appstore was the only way that Apple allow.
But back to your Question, you can use Gpgp mail with the Service also in Sierra Mail it was a little bit (really little) more to do than normally you must use the Service Menu in Leftclick or cmd click there you will find all GPGP Service Apps like sign encrypt decrypt send key and so far.
The only Difference between a El captain running Version was that you must do what you need manually before you send or after receive a gpgp mail you have no automatism thats all.
Do a search here in Forum you will find a Post with closer description and Images how that Workaround will work, it was easy two clicks to get a gpgp mail out or open a arrived one.
In my Eyes it was better if GPGP Tools Suite become commercial and will cost some Money than they would have Money for development. Like now all was free every developer brings in Time much he/she can without earning something gpgp is a Hobby for all that developers work on it.
I can only say thank´s for that and give some time a donation, but i need gpgp hole day at work i need a working solution every time thats why i use not apples mail app i buy me one that work for me and can handle gpgp and smime.
best
Andre
Support Staff 7 Posted by Steve on 04 Oct, 2016 09:18 AM
Hey Vertex and Andre,
welcome to the GPGTools community support platform.
We understand you are eagerly waiting for a version of GPGMail that is compatible with macOS Sierra (10.12).
A few arguments have already been exchanged. So here's our currently reply:
We are still working on 10.12 compatibility and hope to have a first beta ready soon. Until then you can use GPGServices to decrypt and encrypt messages under 10.12.
We have a ticket for this problem. I connected this discussion with the existing ticket. That means, should this discussion get closed, it will be re-opened as soon as the ticket is closed. That way you'll stay in the loop and get notified as soon as we have news. Feel free to open a new discussions should you run into further problems or need assistance.
To temporarily disable GPGMail
Restart mail. GPGmail should be gone from Mail.app > Preferences. To re-enable mail, close Mail.app and move the bundle file back to the Bundles folder.
The fact that GPGMail no longer works is related to the circumstance, that Apple does not provide any APIs for Mail.app. If you think they should, please let them know via their feedback form.
All the best,
steve
Steve closed this discussion on 23 Dec, 2016 06:24 PM.
Support Staff 8 Posted by Steve on 02 Feb, 2017 07:04 PM
GPG Suite 2017.1b2 has been released January 23rd, 2017. Find the release on our website.
Steve closed this discussion on 02 Feb, 2017 07:04 PM.