tag:gpgtools.tenderapp.com,2011-11-04:/discussions/beta/13-draft-settingsGPGTools: Discussion 2020-07-06T13:22:13Ztag:gpgtools.tenderapp.com,2011-11-04:Comment/351926432014-11-06T15:04:44Z2014-11-06T15:04:44ZDrafts not being deleted when reply is sent and threaded messag view is active<div><p>I have experienced these "draft-duplicates" since 10.9.4 and
it´s continuing in 10.10.0</p></div>Thomas_Utag:gpgtools.tenderapp.com,2011-11-04:Comment/351926432014-11-06T16:23:39Z2014-11-06T16:23:40ZDrafts not being deleted when reply is sent and threaded messag view is active<div><p>Interesting, I didn't hit them at all before upgrading to
10.10.</p>
<p>Actually, that's not true, initially I had settings like "Store
draft messages on the server" turned on in 10.9 and that was
causing duplicates, but I managed to eliminate them by turning that
setting off. They started again the moment I installed the Yosemite
Beta of GPGMail.</p>
<p>I should note that my version is 2.5b1.</p></div>basepitag:gpgtools.tenderapp.com,2011-11-04:Comment/351926432014-11-11T12:55:44Z2014-11-11T12:55:44ZDrafts not being deleted when reply is sent and threaded messag view is active<div><p>I have drafts stored locally. Since I installed the beta, these
are being created much more frequently than before (with or without
previous GPGTools installed), and aren't deleted when the message
is sent - so I have to manually delete them.</p></div>Ian Browntag:gpgtools.tenderapp.com,2011-11-04:Comment/351926432014-12-21T14:25:36Z2014-12-21T14:25:36ZDrafts not being deleted when reply is sent and threaded messag view is active<div><p>Hi everybody,</p>
<p>thanks for bringing this to our attention. We have fixed several
issues in relation to drafts so it would be great if anybody
affected by this could download and install our latest <a href=
"https://releases.gpgtools.org/nightlies/GPG%20Suite-latest.dmg">nightly
build</a> and see if the problem persists.</p>
<p>You can find sig and SHA1 on the GPGTools <a href=
"https://releases.gpgtools.org/nightlies/">Nightlies page</a>.</p>
<p>Also you might want to experiment with drafts a) having GPGMail
active in Mail.app and b) having GPGMail disabled:</p>
<ul>
<li>shut down mail.app</li>
<li>open finder</li>
<li>navigate to /Library/Mail/Bundles or ~/Library/Mail/Bundles and
copy GPGMail.mailbundle to your desktop</li>
<li>now delete GPGMail.mailbundle from the original folder</li>
</ul>
<p>Restart mail and check in Mail.app > Preferences if you still
see GPGMail. It should be gone.</p>
<p>Let us know how this goes and what your findings are.</p>
<p>All the best, steve</p>
<p>Disclaimer: This is a development version which has not been
thoroughly tested yet - bugs or crashes are to be expected. Thanks
for helping us test.</p></div>Stevetag:gpgtools.tenderapp.com,2011-11-04:Comment/351926432014-12-21T17:34:53Z2014-12-21T17:34:53ZDrafts not being deleted when reply is sent and threaded messag view is active<div><p>I just installed it, with the attached result :(</p>
<h2><a class="anchor" name="ian-" href="#ian-" id=
"ian-"></a>Ian.</h2>
<p><a href=
"http://www.oii.ox.ac.uk/people/?id=117">http://www.oii.ox.ac.uk/people/?id=117</a><br>
[cid:5335AFE9-9F78-4AB3-B9DB-C24FA733BCB0]</p></div>Ian Browntag:gpgtools.tenderapp.com,2011-11-04:Comment/351926432014-12-23T11:51:33Z2014-12-23T11:51:33ZDrafts not being deleted when reply is sent and threaded messag view is active<div><p>Hey Ian,</p>
<p>can you please copy all version info here:<br>
<a href=
"http://support.gpgtools.org/kb/faq/where-can-i-find-version-info-of-the-installed-tools">
How to do that</a></p>
<p>That information will help us to find an entry point for hunting
down this problem.</p>
<p>Best regards, Steve</p></div>Stevetag:gpgtools.tenderapp.com,2011-11-04:Comment/351926432014-12-23T13:35:25Z2014-12-23T13:35:25ZDrafts not being deleted when reply is sent and threaded messag view is active<div><p>[cid:9BE293C8-9C91-4611-9F9D-59DFFDCE949E]</p></div>Ian Browntag:gpgtools.tenderapp.com,2011-11-04:Comment/351926432014-12-23T14:01:14Z2014-12-23T14:01:14ZDrafts not being deleted when reply is sent and threaded messag view is active<div><p>hi Steve, the nightly does not work, getting same error as
Ian.</p></div>Thomas_Utag:gpgtools.tenderapp.com,2011-11-04:Comment/351926432014-12-23T23:06:50Z2014-12-23T23:06:50ZDrafts not being deleted when reply is sent and threaded messag view is active<div><p>Sorry everbody, I thought the nightly already included the
GPGMail beta - it does not. My bad.</p>
<p>So to test this:</p>
<ul>
<li>redownload GPG Suite beta 3</li>
<li>install</li>
<li>open GPGPreferences</li>
<li>activate the nightly channel for all tools except GPGMail and
check for updates there</li>
</ul>
<p>Then retry and see if the draft issues are persisting.</p>
<p>Regards,<br>
steve</p></div>Stevetag:gpgtools.tenderapp.com,2011-11-04:Comment/351926432014-12-25T08:08:49Z2014-12-25T08:08:49ZDrafts not being deleted when reply is sent and threaded messag view is active<div><p>In GPGSuite beta 3 prefs I cannot find the options to activate
nightly channels for the different tools.</p>
<p>A search for "nightlies" in the knowledge-base returned no
useful hint.</p></div>Thomas_Utag:gpgtools.tenderapp.com,2011-11-04:Comment/351926432014-12-25T08:34:22Z2014-12-25T08:34:22ZDrafts not being deleted when reply is sent and threaded messag view is active<div><p>Sorry, I made a mistake: I looked in GPGMail-prefs instead of
GPGPreferences in SystemPrefs.</p>
<p>Have started testing now.</p></div>Thomas_Utag:gpgtools.tenderapp.com,2011-11-04:Comment/351926432014-12-27T11:40:05Z2014-12-27T11:40:05ZDrafts not being deleted when reply is sent and threaded messag view is active<div><p>So far the draft issues have disappeared. Thanks!</p></div>Ian Browntag:gpgtools.tenderapp.com,2011-11-04:Comment/351926432014-12-29T15:12:20Z2014-12-29T15:12:20ZDrafts not being deleted when reply is sent and threaded messag view is active<div><p>Hi all,</p>
<p>thanks for your feedback.</p>
<p>From what I understand Ian's draft issues have been fixed.</p>
<p>Thomas and basepi: Do you have any test results already?</p>
<p>All the best,<br>
steve</p></div>Stevetag:gpgtools.tenderapp.com,2011-11-04:Comment/351926432014-12-29T15:14:29Z2014-12-29T15:14:29ZDrafts not being deleted when reply is sent and threaded messag view is active<div><p>I'm still getting the occasional persistent draft, but less
frequently than before (both PGP-processed and not messages).</p>
<p>Cheers,</p>
<h2><a href="#ian-" name="ian-" class="anchor" id=
"ian-"></a>Ian.</h2>
<p><a href=
"http://www.oii.ox.ac.uk/people/?id=117">http://www.oii.ox.ac.uk/people/?id=117</a></p></div>Ian Browntag:gpgtools.tenderapp.com,2011-11-04:Comment/351926432014-12-29T15:19:48Z2014-12-29T15:19:48ZDrafts not being deleted when reply is sent and threaded messag view is active<div><p>I had no draft duplicates or persistent drafts since I started
testing.</p>
<p>I must add that because of the holidays I wrote less emails than
usual.</p></div>Thomas_Utag:gpgtools.tenderapp.com,2011-11-04:Comment/351926432014-12-29T16:21:01Z2014-12-29T16:21:01ZDrafts not being deleted when reply is sent and threaded messag view is active<div><p>Ok I think we can close this.</p>
<p>Ian: what you are describing is actually a mail.app feature. If
you have a composing window open long enough, mail will auto-save a
draft. When you then close the composing window you will find that
draft.</p>
<p>So this behavior exists independently of GPGMail. And it's
indeed a feature not a bug :)</p>
<p>basepi: if this is persisting for you, please do re-open this
discussion.</p>
<p>If anybody needs further assistance or runs into other problems,
please open a new discussion.</p>
<p>Kindly,<br>
steve</p></div>Stevetag:gpgtools.tenderapp.com,2011-11-04:Comment/351926432014-12-29T16:30:48Z2014-12-29T16:30:48ZDrafts not being deleted when reply is sent and threaded messag view is active<div><p>I know it's a general feature of mail.app - but GPGMail changes
its behaviour - without GPGMail, drafts are always deleted when I
send the final message. With, sometimes not. Anyway, thanks!</p>
<p>Cheers,</p>
<h2><a href="#ian-" name="ian-" class="anchor" id=
"ian-"></a>Ian.</h2>
<p><a href=
"http://www.oii.ox.ac.uk/people/?id=117">http://www.oii.ox.ac.uk/people/?id=117</a></p></div>Ian Browntag:gpgtools.tenderapp.com,2011-11-04:Comment/351926432014-12-29T16:36:03Z2014-12-29T16:36:03ZDrafts not being deleted when reply is sent and threaded messag view is active<div><p>Ian, this would be a bug then. Are you able to reproduce the
behavior you described in Comment #17? Could you write down exact
steps with timings (ideally). If we have that I'd be happy to try
to reproduce here.</p></div>Stevetag:gpgtools.tenderapp.com,2011-11-04:Comment/351926432014-12-30T10:05:16Z2014-12-30T10:05:16ZDrafts not being deleted when reply is sent and threaded messag view is active<div><p>It seems quite random, but I just had one example. I replied to
a (non-PGP) message, starting at 1000. Almost immediately, a
partially-complete draft was saved. I sent the full message at
1003, but the draft wasn't deleted.</p>
<p>Cheers,</p>
<h2><a class="anchor" name="ian-" href="#ian-" id=
"ian-"></a>Ian.</h2>
<p><a href=
"http://www.oii.ox.ac.uk/people/?id=117">http://www.oii.ox.ac.uk/people/?id=117</a></p></div>Ian Browntag:gpgtools.tenderapp.com,2011-11-04:Comment/351926432014-12-30T10:05:38Z2014-12-30T10:05:38ZDrafts not being deleted when reply is sent and threaded messag view is active<div><p>PS the same just happened with my last message!</p>
<p>Cheers,</p>
<h2><a name="ian-" class="anchor" href="#ian-" id=
"ian-"></a>Ian.</h2>
<p><a href=
"http://www.oii.ox.ac.uk/people/?id=117">http://www.oii.ox.ac.uk/people/?id=117</a></p></div>Ian Browntag:gpgtools.tenderapp.com,2011-11-04:Comment/351926432015-02-06T15:30:25Z2015-02-06T15:30:25ZDrafts not being deleted when reply is sent and threaded messag view is active<div><p>Hi Ian,</p>
<p>unfortunately this also seems to be an issue if GPGMail is not
installed. I'm not sure what the reason is, and it happens to
infrequently that we don't know where to start at the moment.<br>
What I found is, that it seems to happen if Mail refreshes the view
of the message which is selected and adds the preview of the
auto-saved draft.</p>
<p>We'll keep looking.</p></div>Luke Letag:gpgtools.tenderapp.com,2011-11-04:Comment/351926432015-05-28T19:13:45Z2015-05-28T19:13:45ZDrafts not being deleted when reply is sent and threaded messag view is active<div><p>Ian, are you still seeing this? Drafts that do not get deleted
when using the latest beta?</p>
<p>Are you on 10.10.3 already?</p></div>Stevetag:gpgtools.tenderapp.com,2011-11-04:Comment/351926432015-06-01T19:06:40Z2015-06-01T19:11:41ZDrafts not being deleted when reply is sent and threaded messag view is active<div><p>Hi all,</p>
<p>I'd like to share my findings with you concerning drafts issues
in Mail.app so far.</p>
<p>Under 10.10.3 we have not been able to reproduce any undeleted
drafts when using an IMAP account.</p>
<p>This is independently of whether</p>
<ul>
<li>GPGMail is installed or not</li>
<li>store drafts on server is active or not (under mail.app >
preferneces > accounts > mailbox behavior)</li>
</ul>
<p>It would be tremendously helpful, if all that were affected by
this could test and see if the issue persists with the latest OS X
+ GPG Suite b6.</p>
<p>If the issue persists, please do let us know if you are using
POP or IMAP for your mail account and try to find an exact pattern,
how the issue can be triggered.</p>
<p>We are aware that issues under 10.9 and 10.10 with drafts remain
when POP accounts are being used and have an existing ticket for
that. But I wanted to ensure, no one is still seeing draft issues
when using IMAP.</p>
<p>Thanks for your help and kind regards,<br>
steve</p></div>Stevetag:gpgtools.tenderapp.com,2011-11-04:Comment/351926432015-06-02T14:50:38Z2015-06-02T14:50:38ZDrafts not being deleted when reply is sent and threaded messag view is active<div><p>I'm using the latest MacOS Mail (Version 8.2 (2098)) and GPGMail
(2.5b6 Build 917b). I seem to be getting these unwanted saved
drafts for about 50% of my sent messages. I haven't yet worked out
if there's a pattern to which 50%, but I'll keep working on it!</p></div>Ian Browntag:gpgtools.tenderapp.com,2011-11-04:Comment/351926432015-06-02T14:52:02Z2015-06-02T14:52:02ZDrafts not being deleted when reply is sent and threaded messag view is active<div><p>PS I'm using IMAP (connected to a Microsoft Exchange server),
but storing drafts locally.</p></div>Ian Browntag:gpgtools.tenderapp.com,2011-11-04:Comment/351926432015-06-23T21:37:42Z2015-06-23T21:37:42ZDrafts not being deleted when reply is sent and threaded messag view is active<div><p>Ian, since we didn't fix anything in that area for GPG Suite
2015.06 I assume this is still persisting with the new stable
build? Would be great to get an update on that.</p>
<p>And did you try disabling GPGMail to see if the issue happens
with the plugin disabled?</p>
<ul>
<li>shut down mail.app</li>
<li>open finder</li>
<li>navigate to /Library/Mail/Bundles or ~/Library/Mail/Bundles and
copy GPGMail.mailbundle to your desktop</li>
<li>now delete GPGMail.mailbundle from the original folder</li>
</ul>
<p>Restart mail and check in Mail.app > Preferences if you still
see GPGMail. It should be gone.</p></div>Stevetag:gpgtools.tenderapp.com,2011-11-04:Comment/351926432015-06-23T21:41:29Z2015-06-23T21:41:29ZDrafts not being deleted when reply is sent and threaded messag view is active<div><p>Oh and another user who had quite heavy draft issues under 10.10
solved those by re-building his mailboxes. He did quite a clean up
and his exact steps were:</p>
<pre>
<code>
1. export the complete Archive and saved it i.e. as Archive.mbox.
2. used formail: cd Archive.mbox; formail -D 100000000 idcache < mbox -s > mbox_new && mv -i mbox_new mbox && rm idcache
3. then imported the Archive.mbox back into Mail.app using "Apple Mail" option. I didn't loose any email.The dups were removed
4. in Mail.app, the emails show up in "Imported > Archive".
5. I selected the emails in Archive, only 500-1000, not all of them and archived them again using "Archive" command. now all emails are back in Archive.</code>
</pre>
<p>Please make sure to create a backup before starting any
rebuilding of mailboxes. Those exact steps may not apply to your
problem, but I still thought I'd share them to give an idea of how
this could also be approached. Interestingly enough all draft
issues are now gone for that user.</p>
<p>Regards,<br>
steve</p></div>Stevetag:gpgtools.tenderapp.com,2011-11-04:Comment/351926432015-06-24T16:14:47Z2015-06-24T16:14:47ZDrafts not being deleted when reply is sent and threaded messag view is active<div><p>Dear Steve - yes, it’s still happening. I just tried
disabling GPGMail as you describe below, which seems to have fixed
the problem. (I will keep testing this and let you know if it
reappears before I reinstall the plugin).</p>
<p>Best wishes,<br>
Ian.</p></div>Ian Browntag:gpgtools.tenderapp.com,2011-11-04:Comment/351926432016-01-07T17:58:14Z2016-01-07T17:58:14ZDrafts not being deleted when reply is sent and threaded messag view is active<div><p>Hey Ian,</p>
<p>another ping to request the status quo of this issue. Have you
updated to 10.11? Did GPG Suite 2015.09 change anything for the
better or worse?</p></div>Stevetag:gpgtools.tenderapp.com,2011-11-04:Comment/351926432016-01-22T12:12:20Z2016-01-22T12:12:20ZDrafts not being deleted when reply is sent and threaded messag view is active<div><p>Hi Steve. Have just updated. Will let you know if it changes
things.</p>
<p>Best,</p>
<h2><a name="ian-" href="#ian-" class="anchor"></a>Ian.</h2>
<p><a href="http://www.oii.ox.ac.uk/people/?id=117">http://www.oii.ox.ac.uk/people/?id=117</a></p></div>Ian Brown